I saw Gohatto in NYC, twice, and I was just as confused by the ending/murder of ugly samurai/attack of Yamazaki. It was said that in some regions/places, a different version was shown, where there was no voice-over of Kano greeting Okita and Kano screaming.
I got the Japanese version-DVD, with interviews with the actors. If I understand Japanese I might get a clue about the various unsolved mysteries.
Anyhow, my sympathy rests with Tashiro-san!
Forgot to mention, 武田真治 gives a good performance. He looks very good in samurai outfit but of course still not an equal to Ryuhei and Asano!
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昭和年代長達六十年有多,當中的社會文化風尚變化,應該很有趣。
我正在看一些日本古代歷史的資料,特別是源平之戰,亦打算看源氏物語(讀書時看過部分chapters,連漫畫版都睇過,不過兩樣都沒有完成)。
五條靈戰記也重看了。
御法度也重看了。
~d
關於御法度~
(那些出名的open ending)
以下是我未經證實的推論:
1)Ugly samurai(Yuzawa):加納所殺。
2)夜襲Yamazaki(加納的隊目)的人: 加納。
呢個有些騎呢,睇畫面,attacker的髮型/身型與田代相似;其後電影交代,現場遺下的小刀,是田代所有.
不過,到了田代/加納對峙一場,田代聲稱加納偷去他的小刀,故意遺留在夜襲現場.
兩個可能--
a)田代是attacker,他只是臨到尾講大話。但係佢又唔似會對加納講大話,亦無需要向加納講大話--都埋身肉摶,唔係你死就係我亡,仲駛搞咁多?
b)加納是attacker,他偷去田代的小刀,故意誤導Yamazaki.至於髮型囉喎,紮起佢咪得囉!
3)加納: 沖田所殺。
畫外音清楚聽到加納叫沖田,跟住一聲慘叫,畫面是土方(北野武)斬斷櫻花樹,一切盡在不言中。
4)加納真正喜歡的人: 沖田。
5)加納與田代是否lovers: 未知。
證據頗為混雜:
a)土方相信二人是lovers;
b)加納讓Yuzawa相信他與田代是lovers;
c)加納對Yamazaki說,自己沒有與任何人有親密關係,但他喜歡Yamazaki。
d)二人決戰時,田代對加納說:"You betrayed me." 之後加納不敵田代時,對他說:"Forgive me."
由此可見,二人關係應該比一般人親密。
不過,電影從來沒有展現二人親密的畫面,有的只是別人的傳言。唯一肯定的,是田代對加納一見鍾情,而加納對田代的advances表現冷淡及以刀相拒。
我想,加納和田代可能有過親密關係,不過只是短暫的,而且加納一直在利用田代(和其他人)對自己的慾念。
6)加納對田代耳語:
沖田相信加納當時說的是"their words in bed"。
根據網上討論的資料,大意是:"和我一起逃走吧!"
以上。
~d
我會根據你的資料重看一次。
第一次看的時候真的頗混亂。
現在我只記得龍平是加納﹐其他的都.....
I posted sth but it's gone...w/o a trace>.<
Anyway:
土方 -- 北野武
沖田 -- 武田真治
田代 -- 淺野忠信
湯澤 (ugly samurai)
山崎 (加納的隊目)
I saw Gohatto in NYC, twice, and I was just as confused by the ending/murder of ugly samurai/attack of Yamazaki.
It was said that in some regions/places, a different version was shown, where there was no voice-over of Kano greeting Okita and Kano screaming.
I got the Japanese version-DVD, with interviews with the actors. If I understand Japanese I might get a clue about the various unsolved mysteries.
Anyhow, my sympathy rests with Tashiro-san!
Forgot to mention, 武田真治 gives a good performance. He looks very good in samurai outfit but of course still not an equal to Ryuhei and Asano!
~d
我係youtube都見到有段訪問演員的clip,不過字幕是法文.....
另,那個和加納有過關係的samurai,不就是寺島進嗎?(印象中,不肯定)
你搞到我都想買DVD(家裡的是VCD。補充:我總共買了兩隻,一隻給了朋友,可是他還未看便賣了,氣死我)
Z,
那個ugly samurai不是寺島進,寺島演的角色是接替加納跟縱擅闖新選組本陣並耻笑豆泥Samurai叔叔劍法差勁的兩個外人。
加納等不到寺島,後來在橋底發現寺島屍體,加納初嘗挫敗滋味,氣得不得了。
我也看過那個法文版片段。後來在哪裏看到一段有英文字幕的片段,其中一句是(龍平形容加納的性格)(大意)"He seduces them and then kills them."
買DVD是因為我買的正版VCD畫質太差,竟然偏綠色!你估我睇"Crouching Tiger, Hidden Draggon"咩!而且電影的關鍵場面都是夜晚發生的,DVD出深色/黑色的層次點都好些!
貴是貴,不過我覺得值:)
~d
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